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Daughters of Narcissistic Mothers Symptoms of The Good Daughter Syndrome

April 17, 2021 by Katherine Fabrizio

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Daughters of Narcissistic Mothers show symptoms of The Good Daughter Syndrome.

Your mother has issues.

Boy, does she have issues..manipulative, intrusive, self-absorbed, and critical… hardly begins to cover it.

And you feel it all. Attuned and sensitive, you’ve always picked up if Mom was okay.- It’s like you have this radar, this 6th sense about Mom.

You aren’t sure if it’s a blessing or a curse because…

you can’t relax until Mom is okay and okay with you.

This isn’t unusual.

Daughters of Narcissistic Mothers show symptoms that can be mild to devasting. This daughter works to be good for mom, look good for mom, and make sure mom is good with her. It’s an endless, thankless, and ultimately impossible quest.

Exhausted, daughters in this Good daughter role have been trained to place Mom’s needs ahead of their own.

How do I know?

After counseling daughters of difficult mothers for over 30 years, I started to notice a trend.

Daughters who were particularly compassionate and had mothers who were troubled, narcissistic, borderline, or histrionic frequently fell into what I call The Good Daughter trap, a trap that sucked the life out of them and chained them to their mothers’ pathology.

 

Here are 10 signs of the good daughter syndrome- can you relate?  

1) No matter how hard you work for Mom’s approval, it’s never good enough.

Whether Mom criticizes you outright or her criticism is implied, you get the message it’s never good enough; you are never good enough.  With her constant comments, you get a distinct feeling there’s something wrong with you and that she’s trying to fix or better you.

 

Daughters of Narcissistic Mothers Symptoms of The Good Daughter Syndrome

2) Mom gives you unsolicited advice.

She is always making suggestions about weight, hair, parenting; you name it, there isn’t an area she won’t weigh in on. What’s more, she expects you to answer to her and take her advice even when you haven’t asked for it.

The Effects of a Narcissistic Mother on Her Daughter

3) Mom is never wrong and never sorry.

You won’t hear, “I was wrong, and you were right.” Nope, she just can’t give it to you. By the same token, you won’t hear a genuine apology.

The Effects of a Narcissistic Mother on Her Daughter

4) She’s always crossing your boundaries

You have a hard time setting healthy boundaries with Mom and a harder time sticking to them.  Setting a boundary feels like you are breaking a rule you never knew existed.

The Effects of a Narcissistic Mother on Her Daughter

5) You feel responsible for Mom’s happiness.

You wish it were different, but if Mom isn’t happy, you fear if it’s, you’re your fault. This underlies many reasons you have such a hard time setting boundaries and standing up to mom. Deep down, you feel responsible for making your mother happy.

Daughters of Narcissistic Mothers Symptoms of The Good Daughter Syndrome

6) Mom takes any pushback as a rejection of her.

Shutting you down, she says something along the lines of, “I was just trying to help. I guess I’m just a horrible mother.” It is almost impossible to have a reasonable conversation with mom. She gets defensive and upset if you have a problem with anything she does. You end up feeling like it just isn’t worth it.

 

7) Mom thinks she knows what is best for you.

Always. It goes without question, at least in her mind. The unstated but heavily implied rule is” Mother knows best.” If you dare to challenge it, there is hell to pay.

The Effects of a Narcissistic Mother on Her Daughter

8) Although not explicitly stated, making Mom look good and feel good is your job.

Whether you are picking out an outfit for a holiday meal or choosing a profession or mate, you know mom will regard your choice as a reflection on her.

Daughters of Narcissistic Mothers Symptoms of The Good Daughter Syndrome

9) Standing up to Mom is hard for you.

You don’t want to rock the boat. Yep, more than hard, it’s almost impossible. You know the phrase all too well, ” If momma ain’t happy, ain’t nobody happy.” Your mother’s mood sets the tone. You don’t want to mess with that.

The Effects of a Narcissistic Mother on Her Daughter

10) Plagued by self-doubt, you constantly second-guess yourself.

It is hard for you to make decisions and feel confident about them. Mom’s taught you that you can’t solely rely on your own judgment.

Do you see yourself in 7 out of the 10 statements?

As a psychotherapist of over 30 years, I keep seeing these empathetic daughters of Narcissistic Mothers show the Good Daughter Syndrome symptoms. These are the daughters who care too much and get too little.

I see my clients giving too much and getting too little in their intimate relationships, striving for unattainable perfection, or feeling like a fraud in their professional lives. When I dig further, I find insecure-anxious daughters taking care of or being good for their Mom instead of looking out for themselves.

Find out if you are the Good Daughter – go here to take the quiz- It’s quick, and it’s free.

 

How are you good for mom in ways that might be bad for you?

Let me know in the comments.

 

Filed Under: Good Daughter Syndrome Issues, Mother Issues Tagged With: covert mothers, Daughters, Dealing With A Difficult Mother, dealing with a narcissistic mother, Doubt, parentified daughters, parenting daughters, setting boundaries, standing up to mom

Why Most Strategies for Dealing With a Narcissistic Mother Don’t Work and What Will

March 8, 2021 by Katherine Fabrizio

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“I know she’s a narcissist but I need strategies for dealing with a narcissistic mother that works.”

Exhausted, demoralized, and frustrated, if you are a daughter of a narcissistic mother…you are at the end of your rope or will be in the near future.

Maybe you’ve thought about going no contact, telling her off, or simply hoping she will change. All you know for sure is that you’ve had enough pain and drama for one lifetime.

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 You want off the emotional roller coaster ride.

The thing is, you know she is narcissistic (or suspect she is), but that’s only half the battle…

Knowing isn’t enough. What you need is a strategy, a game plan, and fast.

Luckily I’ve been strategizing with psychotherapy clients (who have narcissistic or difficult mothers) for the past 30 years.  Take it from me, I’ve seen up close what doesn’t work. I can save you some time, possibly dollars, and a great deal of heartache.

But, before we get into what strategies will work, we need to examine the strategies that don’t work and why.

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Here are the top 5 strategies for dealing with a narcissistic mother that don’t work.

1) Insist Mom get into therapy –

Why you do it– Worn out, beat up, and exhausted from the endless back and forth, you are desperate for a 3rd party to help you navigate the relationship with Mom. You think, if she won’t listen to you, she will listen to an authority figure. You hope she will open up to a professional whose job it is to help her.

What’s likely to happen The hard-to-handle, defensive Mom will rarely, if ever, enter therapy truly open to getting help.  Her entire MO is deflecting blame and finding fault in other people. Anything less, she experiences as a defeat.  That’s how she has survived so far. So, IF and that’s a big IF she ever darkens the door of a therapist’s office, she will most likely do so with one of 2 objectives, a) to prove she is the victim of your unfair attack b) to prove the therapist wrong,

Mom will come out of the session declaring victory, say the therapist either sided with her or alternatively that the therapist is an idiot/doesn’t know what she is talking about. She will miss the point of therapy entirely. Sadly, she can not enter into the kind of therapeutic relationship with what it takes for her to change- the willingness to be vulnerable, transparent, and reflective.  Nope, not gonna happen in this lifetime.

2) Write her epic letters explaining how she has hurt you –

Why you do it-. You think if only she would hear you out, you could explain to her exactly and in detail how she has hurt you. You crave justice so badly you can taste it. Having been treated unfairly for so long now, you are ready to have your say.

What’s likely to happen- Getting it down on paper will probably feel good to you. Laying it all out there will be therapeutic for you. She, on the other hand, is likely to use it as a weapon, cherry-pick a few points to refute your entire argument, and point the finger back at you. She will accuse you of a false equivalence or demonstrate faux outrage, declaring herself the victim. ” This is my thanks for trying to help you! ”

3) Argue with her, hoping she will see your side-

Why you do it – Not willing to let her bully you any longer, you stick up for yourself and don’t back down. You’ve put up with too much for too long, and you aren’t going to roll over anymore.

What’s likely to happen- Even though it can feel cathartic to let her have it with both barrels after all this time, you rarely get the result you want. Either she fires back with all the ammo she can muster, or she crumbles in a tearful heap– thereby shutting down any effective communication.

4) Try to be good so she’ll be good to you-  

Why you do it- You keep thinking if you can look good for mom, make Mom look good, or make sure mom is good with you; she will return the favor and come through for you.

What’s likely to happen- Sadly, Mom comes to expect it. Her needs take priority and the motto” if momma ain’t happy, ain’t nobody happy” becomes your mantra. You are programmed from childhood to defer to her needs. You keep waiting for a payoff that never comes.

5) Complain to everyone but Mom

Why you do it- stuck Between a rock and a hard place, you need someone to listen to because it never goes well when you try and talk to Mom. Instead, you chew your husband and/or best friend’s ear off with the same complaints. Troopers that they are, even they get worn out with the same old story time after time, especially when they aren’t the ones that can change things.

What’s likely to happen –They get worn out, and it never really scratches where you itch. The same issues with Mom keep happening, like groundhog day. Depression and anxiety get a foothold in your psyche as hopelessness sets in. 

At this point, I need to make one thing perfectly clear. 

You aren’t doing anything wrong. In fact, you are only doing what comes naturally to you, what would come naturally to any daughter, given what you have to work with. Working for mom’s approval, trying to reason with her, exploding in frustration when you can’t get through to her, and thinking it must be your fault when all of your attempts fail.

But you would be wrong in thinking that there was something wrong with you. You see, your survival brain, trying to keep you alive and well, made some bargains in early childhood and signed contracts with Mom that aren’t healthy for you now. Your evolutionary mandate to make it work with the one God gave you was in full operation.

The problem now is- you don’t know those contracts to put mom’s needs ahead of your own are way past their expiration dates and sorely in need of an upgrade. You may be using an old operating system even though you are a grown adult woman, yet the assumptions mom makes are a product of a time when she had full power over you.

Here’s the problem… and it’s not you!

If Mom is truly narcissistic and has a full-blown personality disorder– she cannot, will not, set her concerns aside and put herself in your place. The defenses that make up a narcissistic personality will prevent her from dropping the shield she uses to defend herself from what she fears is psychological devastation- even for her own child (you).

Unfortunately, all of your approaches are dependent on her willingness to at least meet you halfway. However, that particular chip is missing.

 

 Exactly why these strategies for dealing with a narcissistic mother don’t work

A) Working for mom’s approval – if she is narcissistic, she needs to be superior; therefore, you need to be inferior. Ergo, she can’t give you the approval you crave. She would lose her advantage. It isn’t because she is evil; it’s because the defenses she uses to keep her from falling into a cauldron of self-loathing demand she come out on top.

Sadly she needs to defeat everyone, including you.

B) Waiting to get Mom’s permission to take charge of your adult life – Chances are you don’t even know you are doing it. You’ve been trained all of your life to take the subservient position so as not to rock the boat, challenge mom, or upset her. Yet, it is in your vocal tone, the way you ask a question rather than make a statement. You think if you don’t threaten her, she will grant you permission to do what’s best for you.

The truth is, if Mom is narcissistic, she needs to keep you subservient (under her), so she treats your deference as a weakness and refuses to grant you permission.

C) Expecting Mom to empathize with you-  I’ve seen too many daughters, particularly trapped in the role of the good daughter, collect hurts expecting Mom to wake up one day and realize all they have endured for mom and finally give them the love they deserve. Except the only one counting is you. Mom is just being Mom oblivious to the hurt she causes.

The harsh truth is, narcissism doesn’t allow her the bandwidth to empathize with you. Therefore she can’t see much less face what she has put you through. That would cause her too much shame, the emotion she is working to avoid. Suppose she does register (for a nanosecond) that she is causing you distress. In that case, her defenses quickly come to the rescue (hers, not yours) with a massive rationalization campaign to wipe away any discomfort she may be feeling.

Like an etch-a-sketch… any empathy for you is wiped away.

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Why have I gone so far into the weeds about narcissism and what doesn’t work?

Because this leads to the number one strategy for dealing with a narcissistic mom that will work.

*RESTRAINT*

I know, I know, at first glance, it doesn’t look very sexy, mindblowing, or transformative. But believe me, it IS.

And, it will be the hardest thing you ever do. Holding back what comes naturally for a normal person is very hard. As a daughter, you keep hoping against hope that one more explanation, one more convincing argument, will make all the difference.

Sadly, it makes no difference. It only exhausts you.

Why is this the number one strategy for dealing with a narcissistic mother?

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 Because a narcissist’s entire game plan is based on defeat, and if she can get and keep you engaged in the arena, she has a fighting chance. Narcissists thrive on gamesmanship. They live to fight, whereas it takes a chunk out of your soul.

You basically are playing two different games. More accurately put, you have two different objectives for relating. Your objective is relational. You want to build a relationship. Most people do. A narcissist’s objective is to wield power over you.

Up until now, you have been speaking the language of mutual respect, kindness, compassion, empathy, and fair play. She has been speaking the language of power, manipulation, intimidation, and of course, one-up-manship.

Strategies for dealing with a narcissistic mother have more to do with power than establishing a relationship. Therefore, by keeping your engagement to a minimum, you refuse her the material she needs to put you down.

 

What does restraint look like?

So restraint means -withholding that which she would use to defeat you.

That means you don’t fall for gaslighting, baiting and love-bombing; all of which are manipulations… disguised as something else- the verbal wolf in sheep clothing. These manipulations are designed to throw you off the narcissist’s game, to put you at a disadvantage so she can gain power over you. In a nutshell (pun intended), if something feels off, consider the source.

So now that you are onto the narcissist’s games and less likely to fall for them you are better prepared to develop some proactive strategies.

Are these strategies for dealing with a narcissistic mother easy? NOT ON YOUR LIFE!

Are they possible? ABSOLUTELY!

Are you ready? YES!

 

 Strategies for dealing with a narcissistic mother that will work!

Reset expectations with Mom-

Whatever your past behavior has lead Mom to expect, you can take control and change it up.

For example- When you get an email, phone call, or text, wait for a beat-up (a moment or a day- depending) to respond. Instead of your usual, she says jump, and you say how high, reset her expectation of you. If you’ve always spent the holidays with her you might stay in a hotel, limit the visit or leave if it becomes uncomfortable.

Lead with intention.

Know what is important to you and where you will and will not concede. Take what hasn’t been granted to you.

For example – When mom pushes you to do something you don’t want to do, say, ” Mom, x isn’t as important to me as y. I will be (fill in the blank)ing from now on.

Deflect criticisms from Mom.

When Mom criticizes you or weighs in with a bit of unwanted advice make it clear you have no interest in entertaining her opinions.

For example- “I hear you feel that way and it’s hurtful to hear. ” ” I’m not sure why you’d want to say that to me? “I’ll be deciding (fill in the blank) for myself and will ask you if I need your help ”

Accept that Mom is who she is instead of who you need her to be.

This might seem obvious, yet, children tend to want their parents to be who they need them to be. If Mom has acted in certain ways for years, observed predictable patterns, don’t expect her to change.

For example- Instead of pointing out to her all of the things she does to hurt you, protect yourself accordingly and don’t tie your happiness to her opinion of you.

Own your mistakes and successes instead of serving them up to Mom.

Everyone messes up. It isn’t the end of the world. If you make a mistake, take the lesson and move on. Don’t make too much of the things that don’t work out and create a negative story about yourself.

For example– Instead of explaining what went wrong to Mom, thereby offering up material for her to bash you, process your experience with someone you trust, learn the lesson, and move past it.

Leave your childhood behind.

Accept responsibility for your adult life and claim that life as a grown-up even though your mother may still treat you like a child.

For example – When Mom tries to tell you what to do, tell her you will need to decide for yourself. Make decisions without asking for Mom’s input.

Redefine what it means to be good for yourself.

Good is now independent, self-sufficient, sovereign. Recalibrate your life to reflect your values instead of hers.

For example -Prioritize yourself. Literally, make sure your needs are taken care of before entertaining taking care of hers. Be prepared that she will test you on this.

Work to disengage any ties of obligation to her.

For It’s hard to negotiate from a position of obligation. If you live under her roof, use her for childcare, and borrow money from her, she will use it as leverage. Establish your independence even if you have to take it step by step.

The reason all of these strategies for dealing with a narcissistic mother DO work

These strategies are all under your control.

All of your childhood she held the control. Now that you are grown you control her access to you and influence over you.

***All that’s left is for you to realize it.***

Once she knows you won’t waver and are solid in your resolve she knows you are the one with the power.

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Filed Under: Good Daughter Syndrome Issues, Mother Issues Tagged With: Dealing With A Difficult Mother, dealing with a narcissistic mother, Destructive, setting boundaries

10 Things Narcissistic Mothers Say And What She REALLY Means

February 24, 2021 by Katherine Fabrizio

 

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 A narcissistic mother’s language is as predictable as it is telling. The things narcissistic mothers say will tell you everything you need to know about her.

It’s all part of a linguistic campaign to keep you in your place and provide cover for her hostility.

Yet, you may be so used to the things mom says you don’t expect anything different.

Still, that doesn’t mean Mom’s words don’t erode your self-esteem, make you doubt yourself, and keep you from claiming your experience as your own.

Let’s look at 10 things narcissistic mothers say and decode what they really mean.

  1. You’re just too sensitive. -I won’t be held accountable for the hurt you feel from my comments. Instead, I will imply there is something wrong with you rather than something hurtful about my comment.
  2. I never said that.– If you hold me accountable for the hurt I caused, I will simply deny I ever said it. Easy peasy.
  3. I’m only trying to help. I can criticize you, undermine you and overstep, but if you don’t experience my actions/comments as helpful, it’s your fault.  This gives me a free pass to act on my hostility and attribute blame to you.
  4. This is for your own good.– I know what you need better than you do. This gives me Carte Blanche to do cruel things and pass them off as helpful.
  5. Only your mother will tell you.– I give myself special dispensation to cut you down because I am your mother.
  6. I was just joking .– If you feel mocked by me, I bear no responsibility. I can say whatever I want, and you have no right to call me out.
  7. I’m sure you don’t mean that.– However, you feel in response to me is of no interest to be. I will invalidate your feelings if they don’t agree with mine.
  8. I’m sorry but you...If you dare question me, I’ll just turn the spotlight on you.  A good offense is the best defense.
  9. Is there something going on with you? I refuse to accept the legitimacy of what you are saying. Instead, I’m going to turn it back on you with faux concern.
  10. I’m sorry you took it that way.– What I said or did made you feel is 100% your responsibility, not mine. I am not interested in a mutually respectful relationship.

While those are only a hand full of the things narcissistic mothers say, there are plenty more where they came from.

*** For example-

You’ll be sorry when I’m gone.–  I will silence you with guilt by implying there will be good things to miss when I am gone.  I won’t take relational responsibility for them here, and now, I’ll preemptively borrow it from the hereafter. Notice, I’m implying I won’t be the one held accountable for my actions, not now nor in the great by and by.

(Silent treatment)- Saying by not saying – I will withhold my attention and affection and make you squirm wondering what you did wrong. I’ll deny feeling angry and offer you no way back into my good graces.

Phew – sound familiar?

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I thought it might…

Well, ugh…but there it is.

What is she doing?

 

  1. Invalidating you– In effect, Mom is saying your feelings and perspective don’t matter… so any hurt you feel is not legitimate.

  2. Dismissing you– By taking your feelings and perspective out of the equation and discarding them Mom says she is the only one that matters in the relationship.

  3. Projecting the hurt back onto you – If Mom can pawn the hostility off on you she doesn’t have to explain herself or own her part in the conflict. So your hurt isn’t relevant.

(What she’s really saying:)

“Protecting and promoting myself is more important to me than staying in loving connection with you. ”  

In fact, these things narcissistic mothers say don’t promote connection; they do the opposite they sever, cut off, disenfranchise you. 

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Yet, you are probably wondering,

” Is that true? ”  

“How can you be sure that’s what she meant? Couldn’t any one of these statements taken at face value reflect a genuine misunderstanding?”

ABSOLUTELY.

In a loving, trusting relationship that has momentarily gone sideways- people make mistakes. Good, well-meaning people

  • Say snarky things
  • Are tone-deaf at times
  • Can be genuinely surprised that they have upset someone they love

Who doesn’t make a relational misstep now and then?

I know I do 🙂

So what’s the difference between an honest miscommunication and one designed to hurt?

To get at the heart of the matter, ask yourself this:

Does Mom-

  •  Treat you like an equal?
  • Apologize when she is wrong?
  • Care about how her words make you feel?
  •  Circle back and check-in with you when the heat of the moment has passed, you both have cooled down, or when she realizes she has hurt your feelings?
  •  Want to make it right or make her point?

 Hummmm, maybe that pit in your stomach or the tightness in your chest… is telling you something?

 

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Ask yourself-

Are you swallowing the hurt and still giving Mom the benefit of the doubt… when she doesn’t deserve it? If so, you might be stuck in the role of the good daughter. Good for Mom and decidedly bad for you. 

Does Mom need to lord her superiority over you, keep you in your place, and make sure you don’t get the relational upper hand? Could it be that she has a narcissistic personality disorder or is high in Narcissistic traits?

If the answer is yes-

these common statements are doing relational violence to you. They invalidate your internal experience and elevate her relevance and dominance.

But why would Mom want to do that to you?

The answer lies in understanding narcissism. To see if your mother is a Narcissist, go here. But the bottom line is this; the Narcissistic playbook has no room for equals, only superiors, and inferiors.  Their verbiage isn’t about building a loving, caring connection. It is designed to wield power over you.

In conclusion-

It doesn’t make it right, but it does make it real. 

Remember building a healthy relationship requires a foundation of trust and respect. Trust that you can share vulnerabilities without repercussion and respect that each of you is a separate person with differing but equal perspectives.

In contrast, the Narcissistic relationship is-

  • neither respectful nor trustworthy
  • Their statements shut you down and shut you out.
  • They erode your self-esteem, cause you to doubt yourself, and discourage you from open, honest communication.

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Here’s the truth as I see it-

*** Saying these things doesn’t make Mom a narcissist, but a Narcissistic mother is sure to say them.***

So, if you dread visits with Mom and… leave feeling worse about yourself than when you came, you might want to take a closer look at why.

Know this –

Your life can be better. You can learn to shield yourself from interpersonal assault once you know it is there. If you can’t decode the language, you will keep coming away from encounters with her, not knowing why you feel so crappy.

Without awareness-

You will continue to wonder, ” Is it me or is it her? ” Because- you can’t rise above something you don’t know is there. And you can’t deal with something you can’t see. Lifting the psychological veil on the things Narcissistic mothers say to reveal the intent behind them puts you in a position to rise above them.

If it is time to break free and take your life back, go here! 

 

 

Filed Under: Good Daughter Syndrome Issues, Mother Issues Tagged With: calling mom out, controlling mother, covert mothers, Daughters, Dealing With A Difficult Mother, dealing with a narcissistic mother, self esteem, Self-Doubt

“Is My Mom A Narcissist?” What You Need To Know

February 17, 2021 by Katherine Fabrizio

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Is my Mom a Narcissist?

You’ve always known something was off about Mom.

Maybe you wondered if there were something legitimately wrong with her. You might have noticed how she makes everything about her and goes off the rails if you challenge her.  You may have even thought it was your fault. If only you were better somehow, less sensitive, not so much trouble…maybe she would treat you better. You have friends who say their mother is their best friend, and you wonder how that works. Yours is barely supportive, at least not consistently supportive. Lately, you’ve been wondering, “Is my Mom a Narcissist?”

Here is everything you need to know to decide for yourself.

I have to warn you, discovering your mom is a Narcissist can be quite a shock. Learning that something serious is wrong with your mother can be both a relief and unsettling at the same time.

So I’m going to take it slow and steady.

 I will show you-

  •  How Narcissism is diagnosed in the general population
  •  How to spot Narcissism in your mother
  •  Ways a mother’s Narcissism affects her daughter.
  • What happened to mom to make her Narcissistic
  • Can Mom ever change?

****Stay with me until the end of the article.  By the end, you will know what makes your mother tick and how to deal with her.

Let your empowerment begin. 

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Got power

How Narcissism is diagnosed in the general population

Let’s begin with the Diagnostic Statistical Manual that professionals use to diagnose mental illness. If we consult the DSM-5 Narcissistic personality disorder is defined  as comprising a pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), a constant need for admiration, and a lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and is present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by the presence of at least 5 of the following nine criteria:

  • Has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements, expects to be recognized as superior without actually completing the achievements)
  • Is preoccupied with fantasies of success, power, brilliance, beauty, or perfect love.
  • Believes that they are “special” and can only be understood by or should associate with other special people (or institutions).
  • Requires excessive admiration.
  • Has a sense of entitlement, such as an unreasonable expectation of favorable treatment or compliance with his or her expectations).
  • Is exploitative and takes advantage of others to achieve their own ends.
  • Lacks empathy and is unwilling to identify with the needs of others.
  • Is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of them.
  • Shows arrogant, haughty behaviors and attitudes

AT LEAST  that’s what the male version looks like.

Lying, eye-rollingly self-absorbed, and self-promoting, … you can spot a male Narcissist from a mile away. A Narcissistic mother, not so much.

When it comes to women, it is estimated that 4.8% of women have NPD. Even though the same criteria apply, it may translate differently. Women are socialized to cover up these overt, braggadocious, self-aggrandizing, off-putting behaviors. Her Narcissism may be covert and fly right under the radar of social acceptability. Oftentimes, only her daughter knows the truth of who Mom really is. (Also, many women have traits of Narcissism without having a full-blown personality disorder.) But first, you need to know what you are dealing with.

How to spot Narcissism in your mother

Is my mom a narcissist?

After 30 years of counseling women and seeing them struggle with not knowing why their mothers make them feel so crappy, I’ve identified a few kinds of Narcissistic mothers. See if any or all apply to your mother.

The mother who needs to look perfect (Grandiosity)

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This Mom’s life is one PR stunt, window dressing, and cover-up all rolled into one.

She needs to look perfect (or at least superior) to the outside world, and your job is to help her do just that. Your manners, grades, anything you do that people can see must reflect well on Mom. Because, underneath all that superiority, one inescapable fear drives your mother: What will people think?

This concern over what other people might think may override any concern about how her relationship with you feels.

Hiding any evidence of problems or struggle is even more important than looking good. There isn’t any room for missteps in Mom’s carefully constructed fantasy world, no visible margin for error. This rigidity is the one element that separates the mother who is pleased when her children reflect well on her from the Narcissistic mother, who absolutely cannot bear it to be otherwise. What makes her tick?

Why she does it

Underneath her defensive veneer of superiority is a scared, lonely person who is terrified of being seen for who she truly is. And who she is (in her mind) is not good enough. She is directly transferring her own most dreaded fear onto you, giving you that burden to bear, as it were.

To defend herself against this fear, your mother needs to look unique.  Her daughter must be a walking billboard, living evidence that Mom is indeed special, more special than anyone. Which leads me too…

The Mother Who Needs to Win (Superiority) 

Is my mother a narcissist?

Some mothers judge, micromanage, weigh-in, comment, and critique because they need to be the person with all the answers. Mothers like this feel compelled to top you no matter what. Whatever your opinion, they will counter with one of their own. If something bad happened to you, they had it worse.

Whatever you do, in Mom’s mind, you need correcting, setting straight, fixing, bettering, and improving. And Mom is just the person to do it. After all, who knows you better than your mother? So, when it comes to who you need to be and what you’re doing wrong, she is always right (and never sorry).

It’s as if you’d only do as Mom says; life (and you) would be perfect.

Even on those rare occasions when you eke out what feels like a victory- when Mom seems happy with you-you, you know one false step, and you slip right off that pedestal. You are always one conversation away from another piece of Mom’s advice, wanted or not.

You feel pressure to live out the myth that Mom knows best and is always looking out for you. Even after you have long outgrown that need, she can’t relinquish her role as the authority, the one with the power. What drives her? 

Why She Does It
The mother who needs to win needs to feel special because, deep down, she is insecure. She may look confident on the outside, but inside, her feelings of inadequacy can only overcome by making you feel “less-than.”

Mom isn’t worried about your self-esteem—she’s far more driven to elevate her own lest she falls into the abyss of unworthiness. It’s a slippery slope for her. Give you a leg up and down she goes. Her need to defeat you or at least keep you in your place is a cruel consequence of her insecurity. Constantly one-upping you or putting you down allows Mom to feel superior and, more importantly, relevant.

The sad truth is, (she fears) if you could get along without her, why would you choose to be with her? And now for the final kind of Narcissistic mother.

The Mother Who Wants a Do-Over (lacks empathy) 

projecting mom

A mother who treats you like a project, who is always making suggestions about how you can improve, may be trying to make herself whole by making you better. It goes without saying this does not work. She sees you as her do-over—more an extension of her than as an independent being.

Whether she appropriates your life for correction or glory, psychologists say she is relating to you as a narcissistic extension.

In real life, this means there is little daylight between the two of you. As her right arm, you are merely an extension of hers to trot out for show or examine for faults, while your purpose is to do her bidding and fight her fights as if they were your own. Which of course feels crappy.

That’s why she can criticize you without a thought as to how that criticism lands with you or demand you “behave” (as she defines it) rather than give you the space and respect to decide for yourself. She over-identifies with your successes and feels wounded by your setbacks and because she doesn’t experience you as a separate person with your own thoughts and feelings. And thus…

Mom can’t empathize with you, she is too busy overidentifying with you. 

Why She Does It
The Mom who wants a do-over can’t face the truth about herself. There are scary things hidden away in her psyche that she can’t contain through the defense mechanism of repression alone. As a result, she needs a container to hold all the stuff she wants to discard—and guess who gets to play the role of a garbage can? “Here, hold this, will you?” “Sure, Mom.”

This defense is called projection—Mom projects the unwanted parts of herself onto you and then endeavors to fix them…in you. This unconscious dynamic makes you Mom’s psychological trashcan and recycling receptacle all in one. Lucky you!

Ways a mother’s narcissism affects her daughter.

Throughout development, a child (that would be you) will exhibit a range of emotions—joy, anger, surprise, compassion, greed, happiness, sadness, and disgust—the full range. Yet, when Mom sees (and saw) feelings in you that she can’t face in herself, she overreacts and tries to stamp out whatever emotion you dared to display.

Because it’s not you she’s trying to do over; it’s her.

is my mom a narcissist?

A daughter’s response –

 Imposter Syndrome 
Depending on the severity of her need and how locked into this dynamic, you will try valiantly to look good for Mom. Everyday life struggles—with your career, your relationships, anything really—can send you into an anxious tailspin if you worry you are not measuring up. You wear a mask of perfection even though you feel anything but.

You buy into the myth that exceptional is the only acceptable standard, and if you feel you are falling short in some way, you do your best to hide it. As a consequence, you are prone to Imposter Syndrome.

You may look as though you don’t have a care in the world, but deep down inside, you may feel like a fraud just waiting for someone to find you out.

In this way, you carry Mom’s impossible dilemma: you are either worthless or spectacular. Which, more often than not, leaves you feeling worthless and very unspectacular.

Believing mother knows best 

You are prone to go along with the idea that Mom knows best and tell yourself that she only wants the best for you. Even though it irritates you on one level, it also seems normal that she is constantly correcting and “improving” you. Even if she doesn’t offer it, you seek out her input. That becomes the expectation. On a more unconscious level, you are careful not to outshine her.

You stay forever, her apprentice.

Thinking you are at fault and responsible for your mother’s happiness –

You keep falling for it—because of the unconscious pull to take care of Mom and make sure she’s okay.

Unconsciously, you think if you can just become whatever she wants you to be, you will finally be Good Enough. But you can’t. So, the doing-over never ends.

“Looking back, mom never let me have my own life. She tried to take over every aspect of my life…for all of my life. Although I had no way of understanding why at the time, any independence on my part was taken as a rejection of her. I never wanted to hurt her; I just wanted to live my own life.”

Like most clients on my psychotherapy couch, Susan couldn’t understand (as a child) that her mother was operating out of deep insecurity.

No child can.

Narcissism or traits of the disorder all have, at their core, deep insecurity. And, this disorder develops in an attempt to manage that insecurity.

A child can’t grasp that the person they depend on is empty. So empty; in fact, she doesn’t have much to give and is psychologically driven to take. The technical word for this is “appropriation.” A Narcissistic mother psychologically appropriates her daughter’s life to meet her unmet needs.

Most vulnerable is her empathetic, attuned daughter, trapped in the role of the good daughter. Her life is quietly appropriated as she tries to make her mother happy. She doesn’t know she has a choice.

is my mom a narcissist?

It makes you wonder…

what happened to mom to make her Narcissistic?

Your mother’s narcissism probably started in very early childhood, where she didn’t get the quality love and care she needed to get off to a good emotional start.

Just as you needed to see the delight in your mother’s eyes when you were a baby, she needed the same.  Bringing joy to our caregivers is the origin of what psychologists call narcissistic supplies.

Narcissistic people get “that way” because they are low on those supplies.

This means, if your mother is Narcissistic, she didn’t feel special enough as a child for simply being herself. When a person comes out of early childhood with a deficit in these supplies, she goes through life trying to fill up this internal emptiness.

That’s why your mother is likely very concerned about how she looks to the world and may exert a lot of effort in living up to cultural, religious, or familial ideals constructing and maintaining a carefully curated façade. She acts as if she has something to prove. And that’s because…well…she does.

So, she spends a lifetime trying to convince both herself and everyone around her that she is, indeed, worth something.

For some mothers, these efforts to look perfect or important are grandiose and overt. However, a covert Narcissistic mother keeps her quest to look perfect, more subtle, and hidden. Disguising her need to be special by micromanaging her daughter’s every move, this covert Narcissism looks on the outside as if she is sacrificing for her children. In reality, she’s transferring her need to be special to her child.

Because the Narcissistic mother has a leak in the bucket of her self-esteem—no matter how she manages to fill the bucket, whatever she puts in, will keep leaking out.

As a daughter, you’ve likely spent your life on the front lines, hauling bucket after bucket back to refill Mom’s leaky one and, of course, failing because it is an impossible task.

Ironically, while you work overtime to make Mom happy, because of her internal emptiness, Mom has a difficult time empathizing with you. She may delight in you when you’re making her look good but feel unsettled and become critical when you struggle.

Can Mom ever change?

Depending on the level of Narcissism, Mom may or may not be able to change. Two variables tell the tale- pervasiveness and persistence.

Pervasiveness– Mom’s who check every one of the boxes, grandiose, manipulative, entitled, and exploitive most… if not all of the time, are less likely to change.

Persistent– Mom’s who rarely show empathy, consideration of others, even a willingness to play fair in some aspect of their life and lie freely and without remorse is less likely to change.

Here’s why-

The defenses – grandiosity, entitlement, and exploitation act as armed guards keeping the beast of shame and low self-esteem at the core of the Narcissist’s psyche out. The full-blown personality disordered Mom will fight to the psychological death not to give them up. She can’t afford to give up any ground at all; at least the whole construct of her false specialness crumble.

Ironically the very defenses that she feels protect her doom her from allowing her to feel the vulnerability necessary to create and maintain intimate relationships.

To change or get better, Mom would have to give up her defenses and be vulnerable.  A mother who only brings out the big guns of superiority and entitlement some of the time has a greater capacity for change. This mother is more likely to have suffered specific trauma and has traits of narcissism instead of qualifying for a diagnosis of narcissistic personality disorder. The Mom who has traits of NPD might be able to change if you lead the way. Either way, changing the way you relate to her is the only way she will change.

You hold all the cards. You just need a strategy.

In summary – to answer your question “Is my mom a narcissist?” there are several factors to consider.

  1. Does she need to look perfect and be superior to others? Does she show little remorse for breaking the rules and no genuine empathy for others? Is she always right and never genuinely sorry?  Depending on how severe and persistent, you can be certain Narcissism is at play here.
  2. Narcissism can look different in women and mothers in particular. The underlying drives are still there; they show themselves in more covert ways.
  3. How your mother makes you feel is a significant clue about her style of relating and, thus, her. Do you feel trust and respected or used and appropriated?
  4.  Whether Mom’s defenses are persistent and pervasive tells you whether or not she is likely to change.

Whether your Mom is a full-blown narcissist or high in narcissistic traits, knowing what drives your mother is the first step in learning how to deal with her and empower yourself.

Awareness is the key to your empowerment.

To break free from this disempowering dynamic … get my guide  –The Good Daughter’s Guide the Freedom.

You’ll be glad you did.

 

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Filed Under: Good Daughter Syndrome Issues, Mother Issues Tagged With: Dealing With A Difficult Mother, dealing with a narcissistic mother, imposter syndrome, parentified daughters, self esteem

Should I Go No Contact With My Mother? Here’s How To Decide

January 12, 2021 by Katherine Fabrizio

woman trying to decide if she should go no contact with her mother?

There’s usually a last straw, a deal-breaker, the final insult you can’t ignore.  You might find yourself asking…,

 Should I go no contact with my mother?

Here is your complete guide to decide. 

Table of Contents

  • Real-life examples from real clients
  • When it makes sense to go no contact
  • For other kinds of moms, you have other options.
  • Here is where most daughters go wrong
  • Instead of demanding she change, you must realize your value.
  • Here’s the problem with deploying the “no contact” option right out of the gate.
  •  Another approach besides going no contact
  • 5 examples of setting boundaries that are within your control.
  • What are the advantages of setting a boundary first – even if you ultimately go no contact down the road?
  • In summary – when you ask, “should I go no contact with my mother,” remember this…

First, realize you do have a choice-

Watch below to see what I mean.

Is this you?

Angry, resentful, and feeling betrayed, you’ve come away from a visit or a conversation that makes you feel like lashing out or caving into yourself in defeat.  Mom’s said the thing or done the thing that kills whatever hope you had for a good relationship with her.

At what point do you say ENOUGH?! Enough abuse, dysfunction, bullying, momma drama, intrusion, insults, and toxicity for one lifetime, you say.

You’ve reached the end of your rope, the last straw, and you can’t let her treat you this way.

Frankly, you don’t know what else to do.

woman feeling exasperated and asking should i go no contact with my mother

Let me help you.

First of all…you are not alone.

Almost every daughter of a difficult mother I see in psychotherapy struggles with drawing the line and drawing a hard line with her mother.

I’ve led hundreds of women just like you through the process of deciding whether or not to go no contact with their mother. Whether or not they end up going no contact isn’t as important as the approach to making a change.

As you will see- unless you take the essential steps, the whole thing can easily backfire on you, leaving you worse than where you began.

Real-life examples from real clients- asking should I go no contact with my mother? 

woman on therapy coach askng should I go no contact with my mother?

 

Seated on my psychotherapy couch, Sarah is in agony.

” I can’t take one more discussion of my faults. Nothing is ever good enough for her. No matter what I do… she weighs in with criticism and judgment.  I get off the phone in tears feeling terrible about myself. Who needs that? I’d be better off never talking to her again.” 

In a later session, Emily says, “Mom’s a black hole.

“I constantly take care of her and have nothing left for myself. Her neediness is sucking the life out of me. Everything turns into a drama, and whatever happens, it’s always my fault. When will this end?”

Still later, Susan says,” My mother is toxic.

She poisons everything she touches. She twists the truth and constantly manipulates to make herself look good instead of owing up to anything. I’ve had it with her lies and manipulations. After what she said to me yesterday, I am never speaking to that woman again!”

Angry, resentful, and feeling betrayed, you’ve come away from a visit or a conversation that makes you feel like lashing out or caving into yourself in defeat.  Mom’s said the thing or done the thing that kills whatever hope you had for a good relationship with her.

There’s just no coming back from this one- you tell yourself.

woman wondering if she should go no contact with her mother?

 Should I go no contact with my mother?  

Maybe she’s criticized you for the last time or created so much unnecessary drama she has exhausted all the goodwill, second chances, or patience you’ve got in you. Or you’ve exhausted yourself trying to please her and find…nothing is ever good enough for her.

Either way, you are out of emotional gas.

In the course of a psychotherapy day, I hear more than one daughter trapped in the role of the “good daughter”  of a difficult mother struggle with this one agonizing question, “Should I go no contact with my mother or do something less drastic?”

When it makes sense to go no contact with your mother

Sometimes going no contact is the only acceptable option. Especially for daughters of mothers who fall on the antisocial, sociopathic end of the psychological spectrum, cutting off all contact can be the only way to save yourself.

Should you go no contact with your mother?

The short answer is probably “YES ” if your mother is one of those Moms.

woman deciding she should go no contact with her mother?

How can you tell if your mother is one of those moms- (the antisocial, sociopathic Mom)

 ask yourself

  • Does Mom regularly break the law, lie, steal, or cheat without any show of remorse?
  • Is she intentionally cruel and seems to take pleasure in causing others misery?
  • Does she possess no capacity for empathy… no matter the circumstance?

This kind of Mom is, frankly, rare. She is, however, someone you need to protect yourself from. If you can be 100% sure she is incapable of acting with basic human emotions, you need to get away… and fast. No contact is definitely in order.

 

For other Moms, you have other options.

For most narcissistic, borderline, or personality disordered moms (many of whom land somewhere on a spectrum), you have other options to exercise before you deploy the nuclear option- going no contact.

As angry and ready to take action as you are… thinking this one through will pay off in the long run even if you ultimately decide to go no contact. Stick with me here and…

 ask yourself –

Is Mom controlling, manipulative, and self-centered when her back is up against the wall? But, when the heat is off, and she doesn’t feel threatened, can she show some empathy? Does she follow the rules in some aspect of her life, even when it isn’t to her advantage?

* I want to be sure you know- if your answer is yes, that doesn’t make Mom’s behavior okay in my book… not by a long shot. It just means she has other, more human psychological tools in her toolbox. 

(You have to give her enough reason to use them- but more on that later.)

Here is where most daughters go wrong-

  1.  Insist Mom admit she is wrong and you are right.
  2. Insist Mom agree to therapy and work on changing herself.

And if not, you will go NO CONTACT! 

“What’s wrong with that, you say? Mom is wrong, and she needs to admit it before anything can change. She is the one that is messed up and needs help. Isn’t that obvious!”

If mom is wrong shouldn't she admit it

In a perfect world – YES!  But in my experience, this approach rarely goes well.

You see, Mom’s ways of thinking and doing things have been ingrained over years and years. She is very practiced at it and is unlikely to make a % 180-degree turn.

Giving Mom this kind of ultimatum, you will likely get defensive push-back rather than the hoped-for concession.

 

 

“But why,” you ask? “I’m only asking for her to own her part in the dysfunction and agree to change her ways. Is that too much to ask?”

The answer isn’t so much about what is fair… as it is about what is possible.

And I want to set you up for success, not failure.

Here’s the unvarnished truth as I know it- 

A mother whose personality structure has been dependent on deflecting blame and criticism is virtually allergic to taking responsibility for her actions. She will hardly EVER admit to being wrong, think she needs therapy, or commit to acting differently- at least, not in this lifetime.

Think of it this way: Mom has been using her defense mechanisms for pretty much her entire life, certainly way before you came along. As such, she will have encountered resistance to her ways. If none of the consequences she has encountered thus far has been enough to make her reconsider and self-reflect, she is unlikely to give them up now.

In her mind, admitting she is wrong, messed up, or needs to change will dismantle her entire psychologically constructed house of cards. She will fight to the psychological death to give it up even if it destroys all her relationships in the process.

 

Yes, if Mom is that difficult, she isn’t going to back down and admit she is the one with the problem.

Does that mean Mom is hopeless and you have no other choice but to go no contact? I would argue- no, not right away- if at all. But, the change that needs to happen is within you. You have to get clear on the fact that you matter.

Instead of demanding she change, you must realize your value and act accordingly.

I will show you how.

woman feeling confident

“Why is this so hard for me to do!”

Well, you see, the thing you need to do is the thing that is hardest for you to do.

This is because you have had NO practice or support claiming your needs. Life as the Good daughter has revolved around your mother’s needs, moods, and preferences. It’s like a muscle you’ve hardly ever used. So it has atrophied.

You don’t know that your needs, preferences, and opinions count TOO. Not yet, anyway. 

Ironically, demanding your mother change (and deep down knowing she won’t ) is just another version of making her the one that matters.

Put her on the defensive, and you will be dealt an onslaught of excuses, deflections, accusations, and well-worn arguments.  Either that or she will play the victim and crumble in a heap of tears designed to disarm you.

Most difficult mothers have black belts in launching an offense as the best defense or playing the victim, so you won’t hold her accountable.

She’s been in training for this one her whole life.

should I go no contact with my mother?

What’s more, Before you know it- IT’S. ALL. ABOUT. HER… AGAIN!

Here’s the other problem with deploying the “no contact” option right out of the gate.

After the anger subsides and the amnesia of time washes over you, you are in danger of succumbing to the biggest boundary-caving emotion of all- GUILT!

Especially for the daughter, trapped in the “good” daughter’s role, guilt has her in a vise grip. When the guilt sets in, I usually hear some variation of, “But she’s my MOTHER. She did the best she could. She didn’t let me starve-I’ll give her that. Besides, what would she do without me?  I can’t cut my own mother off, can I?”

BUT- let me tell you, feeling guilty and being guilty are two different things. You may feel guilty that you are destroying her life but only be guilty of wanting a healthy boundaried relationship.

You have to prepare. 

Otherwise, she will knock you off your game at the first sign of resistance.

If you have some tenderness in your relationship with your Mom, guilt can swamp you and kill off your resolve as soon as you can say, ” Mother, May I?” Then, before you know it, you are back in the subservient position with Mom apologizing for upsetting her.

Keep in mind- if you go no contact time will pass, and there will always be-

-A funeral

-A wedding-

-The birth of a baby-

 Will you stay away and miss out?

In some cases, staying away is necessary. Being in the same room with Mom isn’t worth your sanity.  But if you declare no contact, be prepared – from now on, the losses that come along will keep on adding up.

So is there a way, an approach that won’t box you in?

When you ask, should I go no contact with my mother?-

You have to face this central truth.

When you lay down any version of “this isn’t working for me,” it will cause some upset. Mom isn’t all of a sudden going to roll over and acquiesce. Nope, she will kick up a fuss of some kind- even if the fuss comes in the form of the silent treatment.

Is there another approach besides going no contact with your mother?

YES!

An alternative (which may or may not lead up to no contact depending on Mom’s response)  is to set a boundary around something important to you but isn’t the biggest issue you have with Mom.

*In my version, you will use the fact that she will give you push back to your advantage. You actually count on the fact that she is going to overreact.

The key is- you have to set a boundary that is about something you can control.

5 examples of setting boundaries that are within your control.

Telling Mom-

  1. You aren’t ready/willing to share when she asks you something too personal.
  2. Returning Mom’s emails or phone calls on your schedule instead of hers.
  3.  Right or wrong, you need to make your own adult decisions despite how she may feel about them.
  4.  You are going to spend the holidays with your in-laws.
  5. You will have to agree to disagree on a political or religious issue.

That’s it!

When she pushes back, you keep your cool and stand your ground.

  You don’t threaten anything big. You simply refuse to give her the power to have control over you. This way, you make a small change and expect a BIG reaction. By stating a reasonable boundary and sticking to it, you let her have an UNREASONABLE  overreaction.

That’s right. You expect the outsized reaction, and you stand your ground and change the dynamic.

Repeat as necessary- with each intrusion, boundary-crossing, unwanted advice, criticism, you assert your adult power.

No matter what Mom does, you can strengthen a muscle that has been weak up until now. You can score a personal win despite Mom’s reaction.  Watch below to find out how. 

 

What are the advantages of setting a boundary first – even if you ultimately go no contact down the road?

  • You can set a small (low emotional ) boundary and expect and prepare for some push back. That way, you can build the self-reliance muscle one small rep at a time.
  • You come from a place of thoughtful intention instead of a defensive reaction.
  • Setting a boundary this way enhances your self-esteem and sense of sovereignty over your life.

*In this way, you are signaling to Mom that you are taking charge of your life.

You are the boss of you! Imagine that! 

woman making an empowered decision

Here’s a little-acknowledged secret- as powerless as you are used to feeling, you ultimately hold the power now that you are an adult.

What?????? That’s right. As an adult, you get to decide how much contact you have with your Mom. And here’s another little secret. Despite her actions, and sometimes because of them …deep down… she knows it too.

As a child, she had the power. As an adult, you hold the power. 

This is your first task. To realize and accept the full extent of your power. Her actions, no matter how misguided, are designed to keep you from knowing this essential truth. Because when you realize it… she loses her hold on you.

Yes, it’s that simple.

So with that in mind-

Now next time you ask yourself, should I go no contact with my mother? You have a whole new way of thinking about it.

You get to decide what is and is not okay with you, communicate it, and stick to your guns. 

That means, know what you plan to do if Mom crosses a line or exhibits a behavior you have decided is off-limits. Setting the limit doesn’t involve controlling her but taking control of yourself. This is the key.

Again you aren’t asking her to do something you know she (probably) won’t do.  You are taking action.

What would this look like?

Walk away.

Stop talking.

End the phone conversation.

” Mom, I’m going to hang up now,” ” Mom, I’m not willing to talk about x with you anymore” ” Mom, I’ll let you know if I change my mind about x, but for now, I’m going to do y. Mom, I hear your concern, but I need to figure this out on my own.”

DISENGAGE.

These are choices that are within your power. It’s that simple and that hard, but the effort is more internal than external.

Will Mom go along? I expect not!  When you set those expectations and communicate them, most daughters say, “My mother won’t go for that.”

To that, I say, of course, she won’t. If you were to wait for mom to realize the error of her ways, you might be waiting a lifetime.  Just because mom has always called the shots in your relationship, you assume that’s the way it will always be. WRONG! 

In this healthier scenario-

you aren’t asking her for permission; you decide for yourself the kind of adult relationship you want. 

Big difference. It’s time to take the reins of your own life. Having her in your life, or not, is your choice. You didn’t choose your mother, but you can choose how you relate (or if you relate) to the mother you have.

Now let’s get down to the process that can get you there.

 3 mindest shifts to prepare- 

AWARENESS–  consider what it costs you when you abdicate your power to mom and let her call the shots. Are you going to live your life for your mother forever?

CONFIDENCE -find your voice and learn what stating your boundaries and limits sounds like, how to say it, and, what to say.

RESOLVE– steady yourself for the inevitable pushback you get when you set those boundaries. Did I say pushback? A tsunami of resistance would be more like it. You need to be emotionally prepared.

Will this be easy? Not on your life.

In fact, whether you get a minor tremor or a significant earthquake of resistance is directly proportional to the level of dysfunction in your relationship. A healthy, balanced relationship involves both parties who consider each other’s interests and compromise.

While the resistance is undeniably upsetting, it also holds incredibly valuable information. When your reasonable request touches off explosive resistance, you know you have unearthed a landmine of dysfunction. And, you can’t deal with something you don’t know is there.

Then, depending on how mom responds- this is a great litmus test to see if Mom has defenses that will be problematic and unchangeable or if she can reverse course.

If you are clear and have internal resolve (admittedly a huge task), the rest will fall into place.

Not easily or smoothly, but developing internal resolve is essential for your own healing whether your mother ever changes. By taking the upper hand, you have flipped the dynamics of the relationship. For the first part of your life, mom held the power. Now it’s your turn.

So, in summary – when you ask, should I go no contact with my mother? remember –

Whether you go low contact, no contact, or “I’m taking a break for now” contact, if you have communicated your needs and limits, you can let her decide the level of contact by her actions and response. In effect, you are saying, ” Mom, here is where I stand; you decide how ( and if) you choose to show up in my life.” 

In this way, you take control of your life instead of hoping she will change.

*A Bonus-  you don’t have to shoulder all of the responsibility of deciding whether or not you and your mother have a relationship. With a wake-up call, mom may alter her approach or not. Then, making the call about how much contact you want is based on real-life data.

One thing is for certain, hoping mom will change is not a strategy. Whatever her response, by exercising your power in this way, you build your confidence and start living life on your own terms. If you need me to help you formulate a plan, you can reach me here.

And that is always a good place to start no matter where you end up!

 

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Narcissistic, Borderline and Histrionic Personality Disorders All Have This In Common

November 5, 2020 by Katherine Fabrizio

(Narcissistic, Borderline and Histrionic Personality Disorders all have this in common)

You may know mom drives you crazy but you don’t exactly why acts the way she does.

 

All you know is that it hurts.

 

You may know she is narcissistic, borderline, or histrionic but you don’t know exactly why she has to be clingy, needy, or downright mean.  It’s as if there is something driving her to be this way.

 

Bingo!

You nailed it …there IS something driving her to be this way.

And it has been hidden from you.

 

That is, until now.

Let’s pull back the psychological curtain and see what is happening.

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Speaker 1:    What does the narcissistic, borderline, and histrionic defense all have in common, if anything?   Why should we care?

In order to answer this question, we need to look back in childhood and understand that a mother who develops these personality disorders or has traits of one, or any of them, develops these set of defenses, and that’s what a diagnosis is, a set of defenses in order to counter a deficit.

Speaker 1:     When we look at a descriptor of narcissism. We’d say, “Oh, yeah, that’s my mother.”

That’s helpful for recognition, but it doesn’t really talk about or let us know exactly what these disorders are. They are like what a fever is to infection. A fever arises to fight off an infection, but the fever isn’t the streptococcus or the bacterial infection.

Speaker 1:  Moms who didn’t get what she needed in development develops this. She doesn’t choose to do so, but the psyche takes care of itself in that it develops a defense against knowing how scary it was to be that kid or empty it was to be that kid. These defenses, well, they work until they don’t work.

Speaker 1:    They work to keep mom unaware of this emptiness, of the terror of this emotional pain. When they become rigid enough that they’re what we call intractable and part of a personality it is her personality, but it may not be her essential self.

Speaker 1:            Can you change it? Probably not. Can you impact it? Maybe a little bit.

New Speaker:    All these disorders are on a spectrum- enough to merit a diagnosis or enough to have traits of it.

Some people ask if mom’s narcissistic or histrionic or borderline will I be too? I would say the main thing you need to know about that is that it requires some kind of reflection. If you’re reflective and you’re like, “Oh, that was kind of narcissistic response,” or had a borderline over the top reaction to something if you’re able to reflect chances are that that defense won’t calcify and you won’t be described as that person, although you were capable of acting, as we all are of acting a little bit off the grid every now and again.

Speaker 1:      It’s important to know what these defenses have in common is that they are a reaction to an original deficit.

The more you know the more free you become.

 

 

 

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Why Does My Narcissistic Mother Lie To Me?

August 26, 2019 by Katherine Fabrizio

Why does my narcissistic mother lie?

While I can’t be exactly sure, I have a pretty good idea. Let’s start with some observations.

Sooner or later everyone tells a lie. In fact, over a lifetime, we all tell many lies. The narcissist, however, is a liar. It isn’t just what they do, it is who they are.

In my work with daughters of narcissistic mothers, daughters frequently can’t wrap their heads around why their mother would lie.  Needless to say, it hurts them and confuses them.

What’s the difference between a person who tells a lie and a liar?   

When confronted with the opportunity, to tell the truth, or tell a lie, most of us check in with our inner-selves to see if our answer feels right. This gut check is a calculation that happens automatically mostly at the unconscious level.

This is true even for liars… and if mom is narcissistic, this is true for her.

Thus, we all act in accordance with our sense of… who we know ourselves to be.

The three-year-old, mouth rimmed with chocolate, who declares with impunity she was NOT the one who ate the half-eaten candy bar, is given a pass because we all know intuitively she doesn’t have a fully formed sense of self.

Narcissism is a disorder of the self. It isn’t so much an undeveloped sense of self as it is an impaired/fragmented sense of self. A self-based on opportunism instead of values. Life is a game and they play to win.

What happens when otherwise good people tell a lie? 

Somewhere, somehow most people will lie. Given enough reason, fear or perceived gain, most of us will violate our sense of integrity, our internalized values. We make the calculation that an untruth is worth telling. If we aren’t a liar we feel bad, sometimes really bad.

We feel bad because who we know ourselves to be and our values don’t match up. This incongruence makes us uncomfortable. It costs us to lie.

What happens when a narcissist tells a lie?

The narcissistic calculation is a different algebraic equation.

A narcissistic mothers’ lie also comes from her sense of self. The difference is that her life has become a lie. 

When her life becomes a lie, her lying is different. Different because her sense of self is different. The lie is not inconsistent with her sense of self. For her, the lie is a necessity to preserve what she regards as a self.

That self, however, is a set of defenses, not internalized values.

That set of defenses stand as armed guards against a horrible cauldron of self-loathing of which she is mostly unaware. And, her defenses keep her unaware of the emotional pain that would otherwise swallow her up, or so she believes.

The secrets, the layers of lies, become a fragile house of cards. The self she has built from those lies can easily cave in on itself under the weight of truth.

Her lying is an act of desperation.

The narcissistic mother is operating from a place of defense all of the time.

The lie is more a PR stunt, a marketing ploy rather than a cohesive integrated set of values. mom’s narcissistic personality is more of a storefront designed to hide that there isn’t any there, there. She can’t ever let down their guard and let anyone in.

There is no true capacity for intimacy.

She can’t invite you into the store because the store is full of empty discarded garbage. She wants you to buy the fiction that the storefront is so dazzling you wouldn’t need to come inside. “Nothing to see here…move along”. She may have tons of acquaintances, be the life of the party but no one knows the whole story.  There will be gaps in her stories and in her life.

She is marketing a self she wants you to believe.

She needs you to believe the storefront is the store. These days that can manifest as a carefully curated Facebook page or Instagram Feed. If she is convincing enough to others then maybe, just maybe they can believe it too. She doesn’t experience it as manipulation or lying, not exactly… she feels it is necessary for survival, psychological survival.

What you don’t see – true humility and remorse for mistakes made. That takes self-reflection and honesty.  If you look more closely and you will see she takes no ownership in her struggles.

What she says about her lies.

“I had to lie. You see circumstances were such it only made sense for me to lie. External conditions forced me to lie- I would be stupid not to.” What they are not saying is that their lie is an outgrowth of internal conditions or that it violated their values. There is no accountability for lying.

“The other person is so ridiculous/stupid/unreasonable they left me with no other choice. “ They put the responsibility for lying on the other person. “They made me do it.” Again you see the lack of accountability coupled with the denigration of the other.

“I am protecting someone by lying to them.” If they knew the truth it would hurt them. Not that everyone needs to know every thought or fact about our lives. However, the narcissistic mother will mislead, omit or outright lie about huge aspects of her life and tell herself she is protecting people, not hurting them.

All of these excuses reflect an impoverished and distorted sense of self.  Paradoxically she isn’t lying… not exactly, she is speaking the truth of who she is.

It is confusing and damaging to have a mother who is distorting reality to you when she is the one you look to- to interpret reality.

  • It bears saying that the fractured abusive childhoods that create the need for this level of narcissistic defense imprison their victims in lives that are hard if not near impossible to heal from. When a person lies in a manner of course, they not only do relational violence to others, tragically, they do it to themselves. 

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Dear Teenaged Daughter -The Story of How I Let You Go And What I Learned 

August 18, 2019 by Katherine Fabrizio

 

 

 

 

The heartbreak and gift of letting your daughter go

Dear Teenaged Daughter,

(written 10 years ago) 

You have that far away look in your eyes now. Home isn’t the center of your universe.

I knew it would be this way. I just didn’t know how much it would hurt.

That open face in the photo I have of you as a toddler, so eager and trusting of me- where did she go? Where did you go?

Yet, I reflect… my own mother struggled with letting me go, and I swore I’d do better. I just didn’t know it would hurt so much.

Now, made-up eyes and a knockout figure, you look down your pretty nose and smirk at the rest of us as though we were clueless trolls. I mispronounce the name of your favorite clothing store and you shudder visibly in disgust.

Even your compliments have a patronizing air.

Yesterday, the universe threw me a small crumb.

Watching TV in my bed, you were exhausted, and, uncharacteristically, fell asleep in my arms. It reminded me of when you were a baby and I’d let my arm go numb rather than move it and disturb your sleep. I thought to myself, if this is the last time I hold you, I dare not move.

I know I can’t make it “all better” anymore- but maybe you could just rest awhile in mommy’s arms.

Without words, lectures, questions, opinions between us, I hear your strong heartbeat; your breathing slow, your warm body loses its resistance and melts into mine. Yes, just like when you were little before you could talk.

Before we let the words-opinions-lectures get in the way. Before you found me out to be the imperfect being that I am.

Once upon a time, I was the mommy who made it all better, not the mommy who gets it all wrong.

Your need conjured my milk, my love, my comfort…

You awakened my inner movie star. I had, at long last, been discovered. I sang you show tunes and we danced. You squealed with delight. When you were hungry, I nursed you. When you were tired or cranky, I rocked you to sleep. You took naps in my arms and full-time residence in my heart.

You accepted me in ways I couldn’t accept myself. Now you reject me in ways I don’t understand.

So, little girl, rest your pretty head on my shoulder. Take a break from your hurry to grow up, your hurry to leave. I think I’ll take a break from trying to improve, cajole, and advise you.

Remember the perfection we had without even trying- before you found out you would have to leave. Before I started worrying if you have everything you need.

This may not be the last time I hold you close, but I know there will be a last time.

The train is coming for you and you are packing your bags. You have a one-way ticket.

Each time you leave the house you never return completely. Home is becoming more of a layover, instead of the destination, it is for the rest of us.

I know you need to make a home inside of yourself, and your dreams the destination. This, I know, is the only way.

Still, it hurts.

So let me hold you and we can remember a time when I had everything you needed, our perfection restored. We can both pretend we don’t hear that whistle calling you, and my heart isn’t on that track.

 (10 years later)-

More than a decade has passed and we are sharing a glass of wine in the home you now make with your husband, almost 3-year old daughter, and infant son.

We made it to the other side. Because you were brave enough to leave and I found the strength to let you go.

What looked only like a loss to me then… looks different to me now.

With a tender heart, I watch your 3-year old daughter load up her stroller with baby dolls and announce she is going to “work”.

Although I say nothing, I hear that haunting train whistle in the distance-the whistle that will call your precious daughter into her own life. I know what’s coming….who will leave, and whose heart will be on that track.

When the time comes, I hope to once again hold your hand and wipe your tears. 

I have faith you will find the strength to set her free. Finding that strength inside of yourself, you will give her the gift you never wanted to give and it will break your heart.

Yet, you will see mothers who can’t let go; cripple their daughters, and steal their daughter’s chance of claiming a life they could call their own.  

You will know the price those daughters pay is much too high.

So, without martyrdom, but with strength, you will do what needs to be done. And, you will be better for it. Fashioned from the pieces of your broken heart, you will acquire an expanded heart-one of compassion, wisdom, and grace.

• The compassion of a mother who knows her daughter’s dreams for herself is more important than the dreams she has for her daughter.

• The wisdom of a mother who sees the need her daughter has to do it her way, not as a rejection of her but a declaration of herself.

• The grace of a mother who knows a heart chained is a heart that is never truly hers, but the one she sets free can be hers forever.

Then and only then will you know this: Of the many gifts you will give your daughter, after loving her, the gift of letting her go is the hardest gift and the greatest gift you have to give her.

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Daughters of Narcissistic Mothers and Romantic Relationships: When Anxiety Feels Like Love

February 11, 2019 by Katherine Fabrizio

For daughters of Narcissistic Mothers, romantic relationships are set up for trouble, real trouble.

* Having never learned what a secure love feels like, they understandably mistake their anxiety for love.

If a Narcissistic mother raised you, and things aren’t going so well in your love life, I’d like to help you make sense of your experience.

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First, let’s start with how you are set up for failure?

Because Mom is your primary attachment figure (read, your first love), your experience with Mom is your template for love.

Let me explain:

Biologically, we are primed for attachment. In this extended state of dependency, we are one big love machine. Because we can’t feed ourselves, walk or talk on our own for almost a year, we literally can’t survive without a mothering (or caregiving) presence. Yep, that includes your mom.

Babies are cute for a reason, an evolutionary reason.

Mother nature ensures our survival by making us irresistibly cute and undeniably taken with our primary caregiver. We are, in fact, wired to love the one we are with. So baby (that would be you) is going to make the best of it… with all she’s got.

One of the brain’s primary functions at this stage is to bond…which is to fall deeply and completely in love.

Your first love is Mom. The first meal you enjoyed was at Mom’s breast or the bottle while gazing into her eyes. As her arms cradled you, this was your first bed.  The voice you first heard was hers in utero and then later cooing you to sleep. You were literally wired for attachment to your particular Mom.

And home to you was… wherever mom was.

The nest she created, your room, and the house you grew up in was an extension of mom. The way the kitchen smelled when she cooked your favorite food…. her perfume, the touch of the blanket or teddy bear that she gave you- all an extension of mom. We encode all of these things, and they all become elements of our attachment template.

That’s all well and good, but…

What happens if mom is depressed, narcissistic, or borderline?

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You may have looked into your mother’s eyes only to find emptiness or worry rather than delight.

If she was fighting off anxiety, she might have been unable to be present in a way that soothed you. Perhaps your needs overwhelmed her, not because you were too much but because she felt inadequate as a mother. If she was depressed, she couldn’t muster the enthusiasm to give you a loving gaze in return. Instead, you got the flatline of indifference.

If she was unable to self-regulate, she was unable to be a soothing presence for you.

It should come as no surprise, Daughters of Narcissistic mothers have a completely different experience of romantic relationships. It is directly related to their experience of their first love, Mom.

Ask yourself:

What was going on with Mom when you were born?

Did she have enough food? Was your father out drinking, and she jumped every time she heard a police siren or the phone ring? Perhaps your brother or sister was challenging to handle and distracted mom so much that you lost her loving attention. Or she was unmothered herself… to such an extent that she just didn’t have it in her to give to you.

All of the above and more are possible.

If you were an attuned, empathetic “good” daughter, the chances are great that you did more than your fair share of the emotional work to make the relationship work. If mom were Narcissistic, she had major deficits in her sense of self and was unable to mother you in a way that made you feel safe and secure.

Bottom-line for Daughters of Narcissistic Mothers and their template for romantic relationships: This is what you have come to expect from love.

It isn’t your fault; it is your experience.  

Why on earth would you expect a later love to be any different?

When you fall in love-

When you fall for that beautiful boy, that handsome rogue, or that irresistible same-sex partner, your attachment systems go all out. The same system activated to ensure your survival is now activated to make sure you pair, bond, and reproduce.

Mother nature wants what she wants.

She doesn’t care if he or she is right or wrong for you.

Mother nature has her way with you.

This is why the whites of the eyes show as lovers gaze at each other. The pupils dilate, and the heart pounds. You call each other baby. You coo and feed each other, hold and caress. Simply gazing into each other’s eyes causes a cascade of feel-good hormones.

This template etched in your unconscious is the operating system running the show.

The script from which you speak is what you unconsciously bring into your relationships. Mother nature is trying to ensure the perpetuation of the species, and your brain is calling it love!

What happens when you meet the not-so-nice guy or gal?

Because of this unconscious template, when you are dropped, ignored, or dissed by your romantic interest, others might see it as a deal-breaker. But you, you see it as a challenge that you need to meet.

Better yet, if he/she’s unavailable, addicted, self-absorbed, or opportunistic – you insist they are misunderstood. They haven’t encountered your brand of loving. The loving that will make it all better. You go all in; you’ve got this.

That heart-pounding, shortness of breath is just proving to you that this is true love.  You just know it.

Then you go into over-drive, working like hell to make it work. Your well-meaning friends are trying to talk sense into you, but your unconscious isn’t listening. They just don’t understand. You’ve been here before, and it feels like home.

Hell, you were born for this!

How did you get so unlucky?

While some people (who have a different attachment template) might avoid or disengage when faced with an unavailable or not-so-nice partner, this isn’t you. You love love, love, a project. You go all out as if your life depended on making this relationship work.

Once rooted in your childhood experience, it is now buried deep in your unconscious brain, telling you dangerous lies. Lies that only put your hurtful experience on repeat.

How do you experience it consciously?

You might misinterpret your anxiety as butterflies… telling you this is the one instead of telling you the more appropriate message-RUN FOR THE HILLS!

When you experience this anxiety, you feel on a deep primal preverbal level that your very survival is in question.  When you don’t feel the other’s attention or love in a dependable, consistent way, you feel anxiety.

Your attachment system makes you an addict in need of a fix of attention.

You lose sight of considering whether the other person is a suitable partner.

We joke and say you lose your mind. But this is true.  You look for ways to keep the “other’s” attention. Instead of looking out for yourself, you work to elicit signs of their affection &/or caretaking from the other.

 You start to confuse anxiety with love.

This can be a slippery slope anxiously working to keep the other person’s attention. Do it enough, and you only reinforce the idea that you are in love.

Before you know it, love hurts.

What you call love, is in fact, primarily anxious bonding from an insecure attachment.

While the baby in you is trying to ensure survival, the good daughter in you is working too hard and settling for more she should.

*You aren’t doomed, and you aren’t broken.

You deserve to be loved and to give love.

If you find yourself trapped in a pattern of mistaking anxiety for love, healing begins with awareness.

To find out if you are caught in the good daughter trap, go here.

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Daughters of Narcissistic Mothers Are At Risk For Postpartum Depression- Here’s Why

February 3, 2019 by Katherine Fabrizio

Postpartum Depression-

 When you become a mother.

For, you, the daughter of the Narcissistic or Difficult mother, new motherhood can be terrifying. Just when everyone expects you to be blissing out, you can feel like a failure and nobody wants to talk about why.

You look at your beautiful baby only to have tears stream down your face. You are swamped with not feeling good enough and overwhelmed with feelings of inadequacy. It might be merely hormonal, but then again it might be something more.

This may help you make sense of your feelings. It wasn’t your fault. Here’s why.

If you are a daughter of a  Narcissistic or difficult mother,  you have so little in your tank, so little to draw on, a babies needs can feel draining and endless.

Pregnancy, childbirth, nursing, infancy, are all fraught with the dangerous feelings of “not good enough.”

Does your babies newborn cry feel torturous?

You might feel that your baby is screaming to all the world that you are worthlessness and that she sees it.

Or, equally tortuous,  you can feel that your baby is a monster sucking the life out of you. Her needs, feel like too much.

What’s more, you are filled with shame for having those feelings. You know how crazy this all sounds, it is hard to talk about with anyone.  

It doesn’t help that everyone around you is expecting you to be joyful,  but you can’t stop crying and feeling hopeless.

With the physical trauma of childbirth and the hormonal upheaval, it can all come crashing down on you in the form of postpartum depression.

When the baby-blues hang on for weeks, even months without lifting you and your baby will suffer.

This can be so hard.

This isn’t trivial whining about mom. This is real emotional pain.

I have hope for you.

But first, you must understand something.

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The feelings that are coming up for you are not your fault.

If you could understand what is happening and be gentle with yourself.

These uncomfortable feelings are from the basement of your unconscious. You don’t choose to feel this way. In fact, every cell in your being is saying.. Stop. Stop. Stop.

It has nothing to do with how much you love your baby or whether you are good enough.

Did you hear me?

Let me repeat-

These feelings have nothing to do with how much you love your baby or how much you will love your baby.

You are (unconsciously) responding to what your baby symbolizes.

Perhaps your own mother suffered herself. You looked into her eyes and for one reason or another, all you got was, lights out, distraction or flat affect.

No delight. No joy. Just an emptiness.

You don’t choose to have these negative nightmare feelings- they are just there.

Even if you love your baby beyond belief, you might still have these feelings. That is so hard to understand yourself, much less describe to anyone else.

Yet,  I get you.  This is completely understandable. 

If you are the daughter of the narcissistic or difficult mother, you put your mother’s happiness ahead of your own without even knowing it.

You had to.

When baby arrives on the scene, even a much wished for baby; it hits you on a primal level -your time will never come.

It hits you in the gut – you never got to live for yourself. And now it is too late. 

This, of course, is not true- but emotionally it hits you as true.

But life goes on and …

You and your baby have found your way to each other.  But you still remember that awful emptiness when everything seemed too much.

You can never forget that feeling.

Did anyone help you with this? Did you suffer in silence and shame? Was your postpartum depression passed off as simply a medical problem, not a psychological one with real understandable roots?

You did your best then.  The more you know about the cycle and make healing a priority now, the better.

That is why this mother /daughter work is so very important. Revolutionary, even.

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The silence and shame have to stop. The psychological curtain of postpartum depression must be pulled back; the unconscious made conscious.

You are not alone, and you are not crazy.

We need communities of healing, affordable, accessible healing modalities, and understanding. Above all, we need to understand each other.

We all inherit different templates depending on our own mother’s mental health.

This is not in our control, therefore it isn’t our fault.

This isn’t mother against daughter. This work is about lifting up all women. Elevating and supporting all daughters in their time of need so that no one goes it alone.

We are in this together.

If you are going through this right now, reach out to your health professional.

If you remember feeling lost and are now on the other side but still suffer from feelings of guilt, show yourself some kindness and compassion.

I know where you are coming from.

You can heal one story at a time.

This is how we rise.

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Holly Mills
18:55 21 May 15
Katherine is a woman unlike any I have ever met. She is so understanding, gracious, and affirming in her interactions with others. In my experience working with Katherine, I've come to value our time together as constructive and motivational. She has a knack for cutting through the chaff getting to the heart of an issue in a way that feels so unobtrusive. Her ability to speak to deeper seeded truths that affect our daily lives in our behavior, relationships, and life experience is beyond insightful - it's almost spooky! It's evident that her time counseling women over the past 20+ years really has given her a clear understanding of the issues facing my generation of daughters. I would recommend her to anyone in need of compassionate counsel during hard times. She is a joy to know!
A Non
A Non
14:31 09 Apr 15
Katherine is everything you want in a therapist: kind, warm, extremely intelligent, understanding, and receptive. She makes connections that you might never have realized. She never pushes her own agenda, and allows you to find your way, and focus on the things you feel are important. More than just listening, Katherine provides insightful feedback. Highly recommend!
Kathleen O'Grady
Kathleen O'Grady
15:36 28 Mar 15
Katherine Fabrizio exudes comfort. To be around her is to be creatively inspired by your own uniqueness, and to learn to accept, love, and even laugh at, your perceived limitations.
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